1st TDL Open Source Meeting - Revision history

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2018-05-24T12:51:03Z

‎Discussion on TDL language

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2018-05-24T12:48:52Z

‎Notes

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2018-05-24T12:26:47Z

‎Agenda

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* Held in ETSI premises on May 23rd 2018

== Agenda ==

{| class="wikitable"
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! !! Topic !! Materials
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| 14:00 || Welcoming (Andreas Urlich) ||
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| 14:15 || Introduction/Tutorial to TDL (Philip Makedonski) || Slides
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| 14:45 || Presentation of TOP and current available tools ||
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| 15:15 || BREAK ||
|-
| 15:30 || Current usage inside/outside ETSI ||
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| 15:35 || Usage of TDL in MTS TST || Slides
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| 15:45 || Usage of TDL in ETSI CTI projects || Slides
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| 16:00 || Needs for the community for future development || Example
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| 16:45 || Wrap up/Next steps || Example
|}

== Notes ==

# Welcoming from Andreas Ulrich

# Round table of presentations
#* In the room: Philip, Martti, Dirk, Axel, André, Sascha, Yens, Alexander Kaiser, Sebastian, Alex, Michele
#* Remote: Finn, Bostjan, Andreas, Gary, Eric, Jan

# Overview on TDL and Latest from standardization (Philip Makedonski)
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Q&A
- Jan: Open Source project, is there a grammar available?
○ Philip: The implementation is based on Xtext, it is published in the repository. Also there is a BNF grammar in the Annex of the Metamodel Standards
○ Martti: The Xtext grammar is for the informative textual grammar but what is normatively specified is the Meta Model

TOP Tooling (Martti Kaarik)
- Installation information are available at https://tdl.etsi.org/gitweb/gitweb.cgi/tdl.git/tree
Q&A
- Andreas: We do have full implementation of the language and is available to everyone via the links pasted in the chat and

Questions Language or Tools:

Request: make all the materials available (Michele )

Discussion on applications of TDL:
- Responses to the Survey
- Andreas: is there a need for participants on UML integration?
○ No comments provided

MTS TST (Axel Rennoch)
- Tools: no distinction among literals/content and package definition references (event, entitym pics)
- Language:
○ Group element could not be used
○ Possible way to include comments into word export (e.g. under final condition)
- New examples to be provided

NG112 (Sebastian Mueller)

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 ==== Discussion on TDL language ====
--  no distinction among literals/content and package definition references (event, entity, pics)
+* Reported issues:
-- Possible way to include comments into word export (e.g. under final condition)
+** no distinction among literals/content and package definition references (event, entity, pics)
-- Configuration connection not resolver (#11)
+** Possible way to include comments into word export (e.g. under final condition)
--  Group does not work (#10)
+** Configuration connection not resolver (#11)
--  NOT keyword (#12)
+** Group does not work (#10)
-- (#13)
+** NOT keyword (#12)
-- entity keyword not required
+** (#13)
-- Q: containing semi colons ; use meaningful tabulation
+** entity keyword not required
-- A: needs to be further evaluated
+** Q: containing semi colons ; use meaningful tabulation
-- test config: make the gate / PDU declaration optional
+*** A: needs to be further evaluated
-- mix of upper and lower case. why?
+** test config: make the gate / PDU declaration optional
-- Michele: Important to lower the barrier for developers and allow the possiblity to host/link other tools/projects. Is there anybody interested in developing TDL tools?
+* Michele: Important to lower the barrier for developers and allow the possiblity to host/link other tools/projects. Is there anybody interested in developing TDL tools?
--Philip: As said before, the level of expertise required is a difficulty to onboard contributors
+* Philip: As said before, the level of expertise required is a difficulty to onboard contributors
-- Andreas: Better documentation on the website could help.
+* Andreas: Better documentation on the website could help.
-- Andreas: What are the expectations/intentions from newcomers? (participants who are not TDL users).
+* Advertise a link to the TP created in MTS TST should be referenced on TDL website
+* TDL team is asked to provide examples as well

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 #* In the room: Philip, Martti, Dirk, Axel, André, Sascha, Yens, Alexander Kaiser, Sebastian, Alex, Michele
 #* Remote: Finn, Bostjan, Andreas, Gary, Eric, Jan
 MTS TST (Axel Rennoch)
 	- Tools: no distinction among literals/content and package definition references (event, entitym pics)

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 {| class="wikitable"
 |-
-!  !! Topic !! Materials
+!  !! Topic !! Speaker !! Materials
 |-
-| 14:00 || Welcoming (Andreas Urlich) ||
+| 14:00 || Welcoming || Andreas Urlich, TDL Steering Group ||
 |-
-| 14:15 || Introduction/Tutorial to TDL (Philip Makedonski) || Slides
+| 14:15 || Introduction/Tutorial to TDL || Philip Makedonski, TDL Open Source Leadership || [https://tdl.etsi.org/uploads/TDL_Workshop_2018_PM.pdf Slides]
 |-
-| 14:45 || Presentation of TOP and current available tools ||
+| 14:45 || Presentation of TOP and current available tools || Martti Kaarik, TDL Open Source Leadership ||
 |-
-| 15:15 || BREAK ||
+| 15:15 || BREAK || ||
 |-
-| 15:30 || Current usage inside/outside ETSI ||
+| 15:30 || Current usage inside/outside ETSI || ||
 |-
-| 15:35 || Usage of TDL in MTS TST || Slides
+| 15:35 || Usage of TDL in MTS TST || Axel Rennoch, MTS-TST WG Chairman || [https://tdl.etsi.org/uploads/TDL4TST_AR.pdf Slides]
 |-
-| 15:45 || Usage of TDL in ETSI CTI projects || Slides
+| 15:45 || Usage of TDL in ETSI CTI projects || Sebastian Mueller, ETSI Center for Testing and Interoperability  || [https://tdl.etsi.org/uploads/UPDATE_TDL_TO_USAGE_SM.ppt Slides]
 |-
-| 16:00 || Needs for the community for future development || Example
+| 16:00 || Needs for the community for future development || ||
 |-
-| 16:45 || Wrap up/Next steps || Example
+| 16:45 || Wrap up/Next steps || ||
 |}